再黎兩隻小DEE

Tony_Chu

benlc 發表於 2012-1-6 00:55
有相睇?
link?

http://www.hkturtle.org/forum.ph ... &extra=page%3D6

Tony_Chu

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我本來黎kill time, 蛇下王, 但見好多學生哥冇足夠setting, 令我想起細個果時都係冇錢買setting, 要將養左半年既盾龜送比朋友過冬.   所以我先成日幫D中學生姐.

E+太Q煩, 果個account一日十幾個PM, 煩死人, 轉account....

benlc

Tony_Chu 發表於 2012-1-6 01:01
http://www.hkturtle.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=21997&extra=page%3D6

想問下咁張相做法係咪一樣都係 on9 呀??

Tony_Chu

benlc 發表於 2012-1-6 01:22
想問下咁張相做法係咪一樣都係 on9 呀??

係, 首先,唔應該打腿先, 腿係冇辦法既做法, 第二,果條友係打中間神經部份,同上面唔同, 第三,呢條友向上打, 仲要,有個咁大既氣泡在針筒內,已經證明唔pro 啦!

benlc

Tony_Chu 發表於 2012-1-6 01:30
係, 首先,唔應該打腿先, 腿係冇辦法既做法, 第二,果條友係打中間神經部份,同上面唔同, 第三,呢條友向上打 ...

o...張相係medical care of turtles & tortoises
估唔到...Jan Hnízdo 同埋 Nikola Pantchev 都係名過於實 , 多謝師兄提點 , 睇黎本書都可以用黎墊煲底喇

Tony_Chu

benlc 發表於 2012-1-6 01:49
o...張相係medical care of turtles & tortoises
估唔到...Jan Hnízdo 同埋 Nikola Pantchev 都係名過 ...

我唸你識睇英文hor....

"The pectoral muscle is the best location to give intramuscular injections in a turtle or tortoises.  With the front limb held to the side one can feel this muscle resting against the inside of the plastron (the bottom part of the shell) with a gentle downward pressure of an index finger.  With some tortoises this is a two person job.  One person slowly moves the front arm to the side while another person administers the IM injection.  If the turtle or tortoise is one that attempts to bite, a cotton ball can be used to push the head gently back into the shell and keep fingers safe.  After feeling for the location of the pectoral muscle, aim your syringe at a 45 degree angle down towards the bottom of the shell (plastron) and insert the needle into the muscle.  Pull back on the syringe slightly to ensure that no blood or fluid is present where you have inserted the needle.  If you aspirate fluid remove your needle from the area and try again at a different position.  If nothing is aspirated you can give the injection.  Switching from side to side between injections will help prevent excessive soreness from repeated injections in the same place.  A little bit of patience and slow gradual movements will result in successful IM injection experiences.

Some tortoises, such as large sulcatas (African spur thigh tortoises) often make it very difficult to gain access to their pectoral muscles due their excellent strength.  In this situation the next best place to administer IM injections is in the muscles of their upper thighs.  It is important to insert the needle as close to the bottom portion of the shell (plastron) as possible.  Injecting medication higher up (more dorsal) on the hind leg or further down the leg can cause irritation of the major nerves in those areas.  If these nerves become irritated it can result in weakness of the leg or even loss of function.  These adverse effects may last a few days to weeks or may be so severe that they are permanent.  Due to this possible complication, this site should only be used as a last resort.  Before injecting medication into the thigh area of the hind leg, always pull back on the syringe plunger slightly to ensure that no blood or fluid is aspirated into the syringe.  Alternate sides with each administration to help prevent excessive soreness."

benlc

Tony_Chu 發表於 2012-1-6 01:30
係, 首先,唔應該打腿先, 腿係冇辦法既做法, 第二,果條友係打中間神經部份,同上面唔同, 第三,呢條友向上打 ...

仲有想問下可唔可以袋錢入我袋 , 應該點打呢 ? 打邊到呢?

Tony_Chu

benlc 發表於 2012-1-6 01:50
仲有想問下可唔可以袋錢入我袋 , 應該點打呢 ? 打邊到呢?

It is important to insert the needle as close to the bottom portion of the shell (plastron) as possible.  
If nerves become irritated it can result in weakness of the leg or even loss of function

Wiindleaves copy錯左, 打左中間偏向上甲部份, 而且太前, 好多神經....

benlc

Tony_Chu 發表於 2012-1-6 01:50
我唸你識睇英文hor....

"The pectoral muscle is the best location to give intramuscular injections  ...

咁有無試過呢 ? 我想睇下相唷 , only 講唔明

Tony_Chu

benlc 發表於 2012-1-6 01:55
咁有無試過呢 ? 我想睇下相唷 , only 講唔明

首先, 隻BB星咁細隻, 佢根本冇力反抗, 完全唔需要打最多神經既後腿, 可以打前腿內側, 而Windleaves照抄書以為係真理, 抄又抄錯方位!!  打前左, 又打左中間.



正確係打前面為首選......



打後腿係次選, 仲要靠下甲方位, 避開神經..........

benlc

Tony_Chu 發表於 2012-1-6 02:04
首先, 隻BB星咁細隻, 佢根本冇力反抗, 完全唔需要打最多神經既後腿, 可以打前腿內側, 而Windleaves照抄書 ...

首先咁講 la , 你果篇野提及係 intramuscular injection , 同 Wiindleaves 的 subcutaneous 經本就唔同 , location 同埋 injection depth 兩者都會有分別 , 而選擇在上半身 injection 主要關於腎藥及副作用影響到腎的藥物 , 其他則可在下半身處理.
Wiindleaves 的 subcutaneous injection 根本唔會影響后腿神經 , 而該處亦只可作subcutaneous , 注射係糖鹽水 , 在於陸龜言而 , 后肢 subcutaneous injection 絕對係容易過你所提的前肢.

Tony_Chu

benlc 發表於 2012-1-6 03:24
首先咁講 la , 你果篇野提及係 intramuscular injection , 同 Wiindleaves 的 subcutaneous 經本就唔同 , ...

你講野啊?  saline 不榴都係由前肢內側入coelom (epicoelom), 你睇邊本書話係SQ鹽水?




IM shots.....

neverchaos

Johannchan 發表於 2012-1-5 17:50
烏龜的 發表於 2012-1-5 17:17
雪中送炭真君子 錦上添花是小人...

富貴哥,

點解每次見你回"疾病保健討論區"內既POST 講既野都咁有骨兼擺明係針對呢度某位"龜友".

佢同你好大仇口定係得罪左你?

仲有你又咁偉大又會幫呢度既窮書生...而九鳥同學個陶瓷膽爆左, 點解唔特登去買個新既送比人...?

送完個2手陶瓷比人又要話自己D龜得返個75W弱膽"捱凍"? 想呢度D龜友覺得你更加偉大呀?

花王

D-hero 發表於 2012-1-4 19:03
見到真係會喊 我未見過豹皮包骨

你位朋友真是要教育下佢先, 點樣養龜. 這種唔負責任態度, 養什麼寵物都出事.

D-hero

花王 發表於 2012-1-6 13:44
你位朋友真是要教育下佢先, 點樣養龜. 這種唔負責任態度, 養什麼寵物都出事. ...

佢買隻刺番黎一日釘左,,,,,,唔排除比人呃...但係佢真係唔爬文就買寵既人黎

烏龜的

Johannchan 發表於 2012-1-5 23:49
我平時有講送野比人咩?  (好多都係PM中進行既,我驚個個黎問我攞), 我平時冇掛口邊bor, 係你條友上一個pos ...

我上一個POST串你!?嘩~小家到咁!!??
我連係邊一個POST同你交流過都唔記得LU~
不過如果真係 以你既小家性格 荒你上一個POST冇還擊咩!!
你連上一個POST既野都brought forward到呢個POST延續落去呢....真利害!

不過係我眼中 就只係見到"你" 串人姐~明人不講暗語!係你就係你~
我就真係唔知"原來你專收絕症, good!!!  支持你!!!  總好過D人專收D setting 問題引致既小病, 大病唔理." 呢句野D名詞係指邊個囉!!! "D人"唔知係邊位呢?
家陣你串人先 比人串返轉頭 咁樣係叫本末倒置!?
敢問閣下教育水平去到邊一到?小弟唔嫌麻煩 下次回覆你願意附上彩色圖畫以方便閣下理解~

串人係永遠最容易 所以你唔洗學我自己已經做左啦@@
其實你係咪內心好空虛 成日幻想人好多人搵你 想人陪住你  一日十幾個PM問你野?
我真係信架!!!!!你信我!!我真係信好多人問你野架!!真心!!
唔知Tony_Chu 有冇份問埋一份呢?
如果你唔介意答我呢D新手既問題 我都有好多問題想問你架!!
容許我係到問一條 我諗左好耐都唔識答既問題丫!!
點解咁多人_唔見你_既?麻煩請解答~

工友

高人過招 唔係點到即止架咩??????
計我話打邊度都唔啱 顏射佢就咩事都冇啦 !

kitman1990

工友 發表於 2012-1-6 18:04
高人過招 唔係點到即止架咩??????
計我話打邊度都唔啱 顏射佢就咩事都冇啦 ! ...

你最後個句....
好好笑WO

工友

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氣氛太嚴肅 整d爛gag降下火嘛

kitman1990

工友 發表於 2012-1-6 18:24
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氣氛太嚴肅 整d爛gag降下火嘛

你個句下哂喇~